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West Chicago Police's Approach to ICE Enforcement
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West Chicago Police's Approach to ICE Enforcement

And why parades scare the daylights out of Chief Colin Fleury

Below is my ChatGPT-generated, Laura-approved summary of our conversation with West Chicago Chief of Police Colin Fleury.

Our biggest takeaways:

1) Angry people driving out of—or into—their driveways during a parade is one of Fleury’s bigger fears about bringing them back;

2) Despite requests, ICE has provided no list to West Chicago of who they are arresting, why, or whether targets have criminal histories.—LF

Key Topics Covered — Parade Conversation

  • The chief’s background organizing large-scale events and how that shapes his safety expectations.

  • Why parades create unique risks: long footprint, many uncontrolled access points, vehicle hazards, and crowd unpredictability.

  • Staffing limits at the department and how manpower affects what can be safely covered.

  • The need for clear participant check-in, assigned slots, and no last-minute additions.

  • Insurance and alcohol-use requirements for certain participant groups (e.g., riders).

  • Past incidents the chief referenced—such as animal-related injuries and drivers bypassing closures—that inform current caution.

  • The role of trained volunteers (CERT/ESDA) for staging, barricades, and first aid.

  • The importance of confirming dates early so the department can adjust schedules and avoid staffing conflicts.

  • A collaborative but safety-first tone: supportive of the event if proper controls and planning are in place.

Key Topics Covered — ICE Conversation

1. Training & Department Procedures (how are West Chicago police officers trained to react to ICE?)

  • Officers document ICE encounters and provide warnings to federal agents who are violating city resolutions that city property cannot be used from civil immigration enforcement.

  • City-wide directive: any staff member encountering ICE is to alert the highest-ranking police member.

  • Officers respond when residents report unknown individuals who may be ICE. Residents can always call 911 if they spot a suspicious vehicle and responders can let them know if the vehicle is a concern.

  • Local law enforcement vehicles can be distinguished from ICE vehicles by their license plates, which have letters “MP” on side.

2. The TRUST Act / “CARES Act” Confusion

  • Fleury frequently refers to “CARES,” but the policy he describes aligns with:

    • Illinois TRUST Act (2017)

    • Way Forward Act (2021)

    • Attorney General Kwame Raoul’s guidance restricting cooperation with civil immigration enforcement

  • Key restriction: local police cannot assist ICE in civil immigration enforcement (e.g., information sharing, detainers).

3. Chief Fleury’s Central Claims

  • Communication restrictions by the state have created serious safety issues.

  • ICE is operating without sufficient local intelligence, making operations chaotic.

  • Local police are “caught in the middle”—unable to help ICE but unable to obstruct.

  • Public misidentifies undercover units, fire vehicles, or unmarked cars as ICE.

  • Community trust is eroding due to visible tensions and crowd clashes.

  • ICE has provided no list of who they are arresting, why, or whether targets have criminal histories.

4. Examples Chief Fleury Shares

  • ICE use of spray during Thorntons gas station encounter.

  • Allegations that an undercover (non-ICE) vehicle was rammed by someone who assumed they were ICE.

  • A local person was chased and harassed in an apartment complex because he was mistaken for ICE.

  • Prior town hall meetings where residents expressed support for deporting violent offenders.

5. Community Reporting Options

  • Tip411 system.

  • Calling 911 for verification of suspicious vehicles or activity.

6. Perimeter Problems

  • State law prevents local police from creating a barrier around ICE operations.

  • According to Fleury, this increases likelihood of clashes between ICE and crowds.

7. Transparency Concerns

  • Chief Fleury says ICE has given zero information to West Chicago about:

    • who is being arrested

    • whether arrests are criminal or civil

    • what charges people have

  • Only one confirmed case: an individual at Thorntons who filed a police report. He was a U.S. citizen.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Chief Colin Fleury

02:56 Chief Fleury’s Background and Career Path

05:51 Challenges of Organizing Parades

14:47 Police Department’s Role in Immigration Enforcement

36:23 Challenges of Communication with ICE

39:13 Public Safety and Trust Issues

40:47 The Impact of ICE Operations on Local Communities

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